I created a fleet with a single task force of destroyers to do convoy escort missions in the Mediterranean sea zones. Bren Mk. ] Convoy protection: Destroyers, to screen your convoys. When you assign missions if part of a sea region is red it means your naval range is not enough to cover 100% of the region. On the basis that 36 DE's are giving 3% cover, I'd need crazy numbers to achieve 100%, circa 1,200 or so. ago. Rejigger as necessary if Allies have convoy escorts or sub hunters in an area. e. I have seen 1 of these DD's go sink 4-6 Convoys and a enemy DD by itself but get sunk. Once landed retract fleet and hope you don't loses to many ships. Otherwise, fast boats and a carrier would work best at preventing convoy or escorts from escaping. Fighters: Good for dealing with CAGs and other aircraft on Naval Strikes. Convoy Defence Composition: 6+ Destroyers. Yes there is a difference. Mines sweeping. My patrol flotillas have 10 DD and 1 scouting cruiser, I build a handful of escort flotillas for convoy escort/sub hunting, and each battle fleet is usually 4 CV, 5 BB, 6 CA, 2 scouting cruisers, 12 CL, and 50 DD. I have almost 4k convoys total and my convoy escorts comprise of 1936 and 1944 destroyer hulls, all starting with or having been refitted with radar 4 and sonar 2. Subs primarily raid convoys so your convoy escort fleet. 1. Your fleets will actively defend transports in the sea zone, which includes invasion transports. I then divide the "Pacific Sub Command Fleet" into various task forces. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. i think the most cost efficient is destroyers with anti submarine stuff (depth charges, sonar) you can use about 10 destroyers per tile and you want to place them where you notice your convoys are getting raided the most Later on if you get into a war you should split off at least one strike force and smaller convoy escort and patrol task forces. Integrated Air Arm: this spirit is available if you have the Base Strike naval doctrine. 9. Swiftly find equipment tags to use with console commands such as add_equipment in Hearts of Iron IV. There are video tutorials and guides on YouTube. Now, onto ship templates, but first, fleet composition. Stripped-down light cruisers with the cheapest gun, best engine, best radar and as many plane catapults as you can fit on "Never Engage" and Patrol. Typically performed by Destroyers. You should always add exactly one float plane catapult to all of your capitals. I have air and naval superiority over the english channel. May 18. Either is going to be rough. The main guns provide better effect against other escort ships. CE: Escort Carriers can be made using the 1936 hull with basic engine, a single hangar, and possibly 1 AA module. r/hoi4. *Edit, Quick addition, when making anti-sub task forces you need a composition of both Light Cruisers (to spot/detect subs) and Destroyers (to kill subs), a usual 1/5 or 2/6 should suffice for most engagements. Maybe a carrier and / or cruiser Role: Convoy Defence Basic convoy defence to protect mainly against subs. The subs should have good torps and the best snorkel you have, and be split into packs of 8-12 (any more and there will be operational penalties). Report. The US will gain docking rights in China from focus and will raid the. Hoi4 Naval Guide: Classes. Use anti sub forces for this Convoy attack: You attack enemy convoys. The AI controlled US fleet is likely to do the same, so make sure your strike force is not outnumbered. Block, then take the two focuses on the left side ( Laissez-Faire and Rights of Man) to get to Review Foreign Policy, Buy Time and Strengthen Gov. If you're using subs to escort, you will still take convoy losses, you will just fight back a bit. Create a destroyer escort for convoy escort mission. I also have 1-2 patrolling forces per battle fleet. 9. a tragedy that will halt Japan for the rest of the game. Which doctrine you choose will primarily depend on your goals with the navy and your naval composition. Reply. In Hearts of Iron 4, you can still rely on a classic 4X strategy known as. [If you have a lot of oil, you can send out your surface fleet to convoy raid as well. Later on if you get into a war you should split off at least one strike force and smaller convoy escort and patrol task forces. 6) Light cruisers are the "jack of all trades" ships. Choice 2: Surface. These things should be created in numbers in little groups to defend convoys. Sometimes a separate fleet for Invasion Support and/or Mine Warfare. Patrol = ships are out at sea searching for the enemy fleets and engage depending on engagement orders and enemy fleet strength. . When escort efficiency is 100% among task forces within a given fleet, one of these task forces will instantly come to the defence of any convoys under attack within the fleet's assigned regions. • 1 yr. Your entire sub force should then look like this. Big Fleet for North Sea/Home defend under on of the Air Traffic Controller dudes (dont know of this is the correct english Name for the trait) 2 CV ~3 BB 10 CL ~25 DD And ~50 or more DDs for escort. 60 attack will one shot convoys if they land a hit. Make sure they were made for Man the Guns (patch 1. Misc: - Build radar stations all over the Pacific. 1936 Battlecruiser. Then wait for naval supremacy in those regions and for the planning stage to be. You want to keep them at least smaller than twice your enemy's convoy escort fleet size. So! (2. 3k mark). BCs should be 1-2 heavy batteries, 1 plane, fill with AA1 or dual purpose secondaries. For example, as UK or USA I make the early destroyers into cheap convoy escorts (Anti Submarine), and maybe an early battleship or 2 into escort carriers. r/hoi4. Give your sub snorkel, best (and maximum amount of) torpedos and best engine. The first rule of fleet composition is you don't mix any type of sub with any type of surface ship. You should get subs 3s over sub 1s because sub 3s have a slot. best way to convoy escort is Light cruisers and destroyers. Each class has different usage areas, advantages, and disadvantages. split you destroyers in small task forces lik 5-7 should work out against ai and research and built better destroyers subs do nothing against subs so. The number of convoys which have to be protected by the escort ships only increase when you give them more naval routes to cover. Torpedos crit at a really high rate and large ships have basically 0% dodge chance unlike smaller and light ones. Jump to latest Follow Reply. At 100%, escorts will immediately enter combat upon a convoy coming under attack. If an enemy is attacking your convoys these ships will join the battle to protect them. The main thing however is just having cheap ships out there on your trade routes. General. Conclusion: CVs are underpowered in this 1. -You still need screens to protect from torpedos. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. This is a community maintained wiki. I've seen a battlegroup of just 2 Carriers with screens completely annihilate 15 convoys in one go. Templates. Carriers are also excellent Convoy Escorts. The second meta is sub3 plus bombers. It is a great ship to use up until 1943+ for striking convoy escorts and coastal defense ships for quick, decisive victories. Also invade Denmark. 012. 54 Badges. Yes, apparently hoi4 navy works like this. Convoy Escort . These should be the staple of a minor's navy. 9K views 1 year ago. 5 per yard) x (QTY of naval yards dedicated) / (cost of design) = production cost in days. (You may mix subs and heavy subs with each other. So i've been experimenting a fair bit with naval composition throughout the months, playing around with doctrines, designs, etc. Since the AI has a tendency to convoy raid in shallow waters, detecting subs wasn't much of a problem for me. The ratio is actually 3:1 as of patch 1. 5) Attack subs should be better quality and have radar, good engines, and good torpedo tubes. Hearts of Iron 4 is a complex. Submarines with this engagement rule will tend to flee from a group of defending. These are Carrier, Battleship, Cruisers, Destroyer, and Submarine, respectively. Set them to convoy hunt. . Convoy raid the enemy (10 submarine size task forces) Your escorts (4 Light cruisers and 15 DD's) Regarding what you asked about patrol and strike fleets "talking to eachother"; If a patrol fleet sees an enemy ship it will then tell the fleet set to "strike mission" to go and attack it, this is when your big battleship fleet will leave port and. Capital Ships can use up to 5 yards of production at a time, Screens and Subs use up to 10 yards, and transports can have a capacity of 15 yards working. For the task forces I put all my subs on convoy raiding, all my small ships on patrol, and all my capital ships on strike force. 5 k (preferably under the 5. Submarine Wolfpack --- Minimum: 20 Subs; Sweet Spot: 30 Subs; Maximum: 50 Subs; Raiding Group --- Minimum: 5 DDs, 25 Subs OR 5 CLs, 25 Subs; Convoy Escort Group --- Minimum: 5 ASW-DDs per. You will need 3 types of task forces 1: subs. So far I've not been able to trigger the strike force without setting a convoy escort. This video serves as guide to the Convoy Raiding and Convoy Escort missions. The first rule of fleet composition is you don't mix any type of sub with any type of surface ship. Hearts of Iron 4 is a complex. I & ML 3 inch mortar. ago. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. First, what stats on subs are the most important to finding and killing convoys. Dec 23, 2005 3. e. Let's assume I was able to take the Suez but am not able to take Gibraltar, so the UK navy has free passage into the med. The screen penetration of torpedoes will help negate screening destroyers. Brooklyn666. - Escort ratio is a hotly debated topic, but what is clear is that you need more than 1 escort unit per capital unit in your fleet, if you're somewhere in the 1. HOI4 Dev Diary - New Naval Combat. Convoy raising works by blocking landing craft and cutting supply lines to overseas divisions. Patrol = ships are out at sea searching for the enemy fleets and engage depending on engagement orders and enemy fleet strength. There are video tutorials and guides on YouTube. It's not just submarine 3s but you need sub 3 tech to make it happen. Submarines with this engagement rule will tend to flee from a group of defending. Each class has different usage areas, advantages, and disadvantages. Naval power is key to protection of convoy traffic, or disruption of enemy convoys. Produce one battleship in the beginning, and then once you're done with it, produce two aircraft carriers. Thanks in advance. TheMelnTeam • 5 mo. CVLs in particular saw a fair bit of action in the HoI4 sense. The task force composition editor allows changing the desired number. Dec 11, 2018 1. Convoy efficiency is based upon your escort coverage and how many convoys make the route alive. . Do not ever complete escort carriers. engine/gun/radar/torpedo for screening and patrolling and one loaded with sonar and depth charges and another gun maybe for convoy escorting. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4. Spam the hell out of these. Even the German Navy is often good enough to do that. The naval side of the game isn't that bad, you just don't understand it. Deviant113 • 6 yr. Escort groups were a World War II tactical innovation in anti-submarine warfare by the Royal Navy to combat the threat of the Kriegsmarine ' s "wolfpack" tactics. Reply. One for Patrol/Strike, one for Convoy Raid submarines, maybe one for Convoy Escort. 0 (La Resistance). TODO Convoy escort. Ironically I set my production to build 1 of each ship currently in production and decided to deal with it later when I have a free dock yards. And also keep a line going of the cheapest possible Early Hull DDs; they're still good enough for Convoy Escort, and keeps me from having to put proper Destroyers on that numbers-intensive mission. Convoy escort composition [edit | edit source] When deciding upon the composition of convoy escort task forces, it may be helpful to consider the following points: The AI uses the 'engage at medium risk' engagement rule for all of its convoy raiding task forces. Composition: 6+ Destroyers. 1 update. Hulls are the foundational component of ships, and are unlocked through research. Convoy Escort Group --- Minimum: 5 ASW-DDs per sea region ; Convoy Escort Group 2. It means you can put naval bombers on every sea zone as you move forward, and the enemy cannot. Best to create a blockade of sea zones and divide your dedicated raiders (mostly subs) accordingly. You also really want the Invasion Support task force(s) stationed in the port you're launching the Invasion from - it gets wonky otherwise. Finally you add a heavy cruiser (CA) with the basic medium gun (which makes it a capital ship), a fire computer, no armour and as many light guns as possible. Best. Target cost 5200-5300. Battlecruisers are slightly weaker than a battleship, but make up for it with increased speed. DD - Destroyer, Jack of all trades and super cheap. Maintaining a four to one ratio between heavy ships and light ships is optimal for fleet composition Carriers are crucial in naval warfare as they can efficiently deploy naval bombers, making them a deadly force in battles. Set them to convoy hunt. 807. Each doctrine has a convoy defence doctrine path. This will ensure the whole big escort TF join the sub fight, as long as you have 100% efficiency. Last time I played I used the battlegroup of 12 BB, 12 CL, and 36 DD with submarine-based doctrine. Hi everyone! Since forums were all down yesterday the diary is coming today instead Today we are going to look at core changes to naval combat coming in 1. Nothing gets them to help. It is 1948 and the Imperial Federation is at war with the remaining Axis powers in Europe and South America. 5 production per day. About navy: build only destroyer 1 with depth charges and use them for convoy escort (5 destroyers per fleet). Ideally SHBBs or later BBs and torpedo cruisers (focus on torpedoes with decent light attack, good armor and radar with maybe a depth charge) should be used. r/hoi4. SS: as said, small enough to not get caught, large enough to penetrate convoy escort strength. Submarines with this engagement rule will tend to flee from a group of defending. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. Make. (perhaps it's better to just have a separate convoy raiding duty for them) Let me know if you guys have better combos. • 3 yr. Extremly costly for medium gain, but if you have the oil, it works quite nice. r/hoi4. It absolutely nukes literally all your stats - heavy attack, light attack, screening, etc. 2. Build out four carrier task forces with strong escorts and put them in the smallest operational zone you can. I was playing 1936 Italy. In the fleet have one CA per 3-4 basic destroyers and one torpedo destroyer. But ships to use would be destroyers, and maybe 1-2 LC if you can spare them (eg if you are england/usa/japan). Escort groups were a World War II tactical innovation in anti-submarine warfare by the Royal Navy to combat the threat of the Kriegsmarine ' s "wolfpack" tactics. Turns out it's all okay but I'm sure many other HOI4 players, especially new ones, are just as vexed and frustrated by this issue as I was.